Labels: Ignorance and Sexuality.

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I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t know what a lot of the labels float­ing around describ­ing myr­iad aspects of human sex­u­al­ity really mean. It’s con­fus­ing, right? I mean, what exactly does it mean when some­one tells you that they aren’t gay, they’re queer. What exactly is queer any­way? What does gender-fluidity really mean?

And the worst part is, you can’t really ask any­one. Ask some­one what it means to be queer and you’re open­ing up a can of worms. I’ve unknow­ingly offended many a per­son by not really under­stand­ing their per­sonal def­i­n­i­tion of their own sex­u­al­ity. And I cer­tainly didn’t mean to!

I’d put this post on the back burner, but a recent con­ver­sa­tion I saw on twit­ter prompted me to rewrite it and post it. I don’t know what those terms mean — gay, queer, femme, butch, boi, pan­sex­ual. Gay and queer aren’t the same thing? I openly admit my igno­rance because I want to learn and I want to do so with­out offend­ing anyone.

I iden­tify as bisex­ual — I like both boys and girls. In high school, when I was actively defin­ing my sex­u­al­ity, there was gay, bisex­ual, and straight. And under­neath the “gay” cat­e­gory, there were more cat­e­gories to choose from, both for men and women. Butch, lip­stick les­bian, femme — my best friend was a lip­stick les­bian. She taught me every­thing I knew about makeup and was always dolled up to the nines. I’d heard about dif­fer­ent cat­e­gories for men, but since most of the men I knew were also bisex­ual, I didn’t have any per­sonal expe­ri­ences with any of those “categories”.

The world opened up even more for me when I started read­ing sex blogs, and even more so when I started writ­ing my own sex blog. Cat­e­gories, labels, unla­bels, anti-labels, peo­ple who refused to be defined and labeled, peo­ple who have very spe­cific labels they pre­fer, peo­ple with always evolv­ing sex­u­al­ity whose labels change– there was so much more than I’d ever imag­ined. And it was con­fus­ing. Pan­sex­ual, sapio­sex­u­al­ity — def­i­n­i­tions that I never knew existed. And it’s still con­fus­ing. So, help me out, and tell me a lit­tle bit about how you define your­self sex­u­ally, what labels you like/dislike, and how you iden­tify — because I’d love to learn more.

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14 Comments

  1. Posted March 18, 2009 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    This is a great post. One of the best I have read in a long time and thank you for ask­ing some of the same ques­tions I have won­dered at times.

  2. Posted March 18, 2009 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    When you find out what all these terms mean, let me know– I’ll make pocket sized ref­er­ence cards. “Gender/identity for dummies”

  3. Posted March 18, 2009 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Def­i­nitely a great post, and good for you for unashamedly admit­ting you don’t know what a lot of these terms mean.

    I think it’s sad that you — and peo­ple in gen­eral — CAN’T ask oth­ers what terms mean. Peo­ple should not be offended by peo­ple truly seek­ing knowl­edge! I think as a com­mu­nity that gets a LOT of per­se­cu­tion and hatred aimed at us, we’ve got­ten a lit­tle overly defen­sive, to the point where knowl­edge seek­ers like your­self feel dis­cour­aged from ask­ing per­ti­nent questions.

    I’m going to think more on this and prob­a­bly write a blog post about it, because the ques­tions you’re ask­ing require more in-depth answers than should be fit into a blog comment.

    But hey, if you ever have any ques­tions about this stuff… I am one of those peo­ple who will NOT be offended. I can’t promise the same cal­iber of answers you’d get out of some of the more well-versed peo­ple, but I can promise hon­esty and accep­tance. You fol­low me on Twit­ter (I’m bailar_vivir) and I also have a slew of IM hosts if you ever want to chat!

  4. Posted March 18, 2009 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    To me poly=nonmanogmous. In orher words Ican be deeply in love/lust with more than one. Most of us are, but we dont own up to our own sex­ual desires.

    Prob­lem is that we are an asex­ual soci­ety. Try to pretemd it does not exist, but its there all the time.

  5. Posted March 18, 2009 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    I’m of the opin­ion that there isn’t any­thing more offen­sive than igno­rance, so I always encour­age peo­ple to ask. If you ask some­one politely what a label they use means for THEM, you are allow­ing them to give them THEIR mean­ing. Mind you, their is a lot of ambi­gu­ity amongst peo­ple about what all this means! ;)

    gay, queer, femme, butch, boi, pan­sex­ual. Gay and queer aren’t the same thing?

    Okay, I’ll try to offer MY par­tic­u­lar mean­ings and such:

    Gay/Lesbian — Some­one who is attracted to peo­ple of the same sex

    Gay men and les­bians can run the gamut on expres­sion and dress; often­times they will use iden­ti­fy­ing labels to denote the level of fem­i­nin­ity and/or mas­culin­ity they iden­tify with. It’s all a mat­ter of gen­der social­iza­tion and expres­sion, IMO, but that’s where butch, dyke, femme, AGG, boi come from. Oh, but there are also trans­guys (FtM) that may iden­tify as boi/boy…

    Oh, and while I’m think­ing of trans­gen­der: being trans has NOTHING to do with sex­ual ori­en­ta­tion. That being said, a FtM trans­guy could still like men as a guy. He may con­sider him­self a gay man. Their ori­en­ta­tion has noth­ing to do with their gen­der iden­tity being changed. Fol­low me so far?

    Okay, then there’s pan­sex­ual and queer. These can some­times be inter­changed, but it depends on the person’s per­sonal inter­pre­ta­tion (from what I have noticed.) Pan­sex­ual basi­cally means attracted to peo­ple regard­less of their sex, gen­der expres­sion, and sex­ual ori­en­ta­tion. Thus, it allows for any­thing and every­thing. I think Queer is a lit­tle more lib­eral about allow­ing for vari­ances in gen­der itself (i.e. see­ing that there is more than just male and female set­tings), but that is MY per­sonal interpretation.

    Per­son­ally, I don’t use the term bisex­ual any­more. While most peo­ple under­stand that a hel­luva lot bet­ter than if I say I’m Queer, the fact is that bisex­ual insin­u­ates that there are ONLY 2 gen­ders. I, per­son­ally, con­sider myself Gen­derQueer. I allow for a more fluid expres­sion of gen­der. While I’m mostly a girly-girl, I occa­sion­lly like to fuck with gen­der. I also appre­ci­ate oth­ers that gen­der­bend. Whether it’s camp, drag, or trans, or just wear­ing jeans and fore­go­ing the makeup and the fuss, it’s all aspects of fuck­ing with gen­der… and allow­ing the self to express as it wants to be instead of what we OUGHT to be.

  6. Posted March 18, 2009 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    I love when peo­ple ask me how I define myself. I find it respect­ful and I appre­ci­ate the fact that they are try­ing to under­stand me and who I am. How will we ever learn if no one asks?

    I’m queer. I’m not straight and I’m not gay. I’m a lit­tle bent (hence, not straight). I won’t take offense to being called bisex­ual. That label seems to be one that most peo­ple can under­stand. But I per­son­ally iden­tify as queer. To me, queer is not straight. And I am not straight. I’m a fan of say­ing that I fall in love with fab­u­los­ity, not gen­i­talia. I like who I like, regard­less of gen­der or sex. I just per­son­ally pre­fer “queer” to “bisex­ual” because I feel like it is a less rigid def­i­n­i­tion and is inclu­sive of peo­ple who may be gen­derqueer. If I say I’m bisex­ual, it implies that I am only attracted to men and women. If I say I’m queer, it allows for the inclu­sion of men, women, FTMs, MTFs, and any gen­der vari­ance in between.

    I’m also a femme in the queer community.

    Was that coher­ent? If not, feel free to keep ask­ing and I will try my best to clar­ify! Some­times it’s hard to artic­u­late exactly what a label means, because it’s more some­thing I feel inside me.

  7. Posted March 18, 2009 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Oh, and for a great resource regard­ing gen­der flu­id­ity and gen­der vari­ance, check out Gen­der­fork: http://genderfork.com/

    It’s a really cool site that basi­cally asks peo­ple how THEY define their own gen­der. It’s gen­der, in their own words. Totally awesome.

  8. Posted March 18, 2009 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Labels such as these are always so dif­fi­cult. Mainly because I believe that none of us fol­low the same def­i­n­i­tion. I have always kept the fact that I am bi-sexual to myself in most cases. To me, like you, this means I am attracted to both men and woman, mean­ing I would be and have been in rela­tion­ships with both. To many peo­ple being bi-sexual means that if you are a woman that you “might” make-out with another woman if you are wasted. It’s the “mySpace” bi-sexual phe­nom­e­non, and it’s irri­tat­ing. I think the push to “pick” is also out there. Many les­bians and homo­sex­u­als, as well as het­ero­sex­u­als don’t under­stand how a bi-sexual can exist. I think that is a sad sit­u­a­tion as well. You love who you love, sex­u­ally and emo­tion­ally. Gen­der, style, per­sonal iden­tity, all play a part of who you are and what you like. The labels shouldn’t be that important.

  9. Posted March 18, 2009 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    Oh, and this will be the last time I flood your com­ments sec­tion, I promise :p

    I explored my own bisex­u­al­ity a while ago on my blog in a series of posts. You are more than wel­come to read those as well. These 2 are most rel­e­vant to the ques­tion at hand:

    Part II: http://britnidanielle.blogspot.com/2008/06/bisexuality-part-ii-sexuality-bi-britni.html
    Part V: http://britnidanielle.blogspot.com/2008/08/bisexuality-part-v-i-dont-bi-it.html

  10. Posted March 18, 2009 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    Woo! I inspired you ^_^

  11. Posted March 18, 2009 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    As many have said, ask­ing is always the eas­i­est and most respect­ful way. When I teach my classes, I always start out with ask­ing for people’s pronouns.

    Iden­ti­ties mean such dif­fer­ent things to dif­fer­ent people…for exam­ple, my NoFauxxx con­test asked peo­ple “what does queer mean to you?” Here are all the answers that peo­ple came up with: http://essin-em.com/nofauxxx-giveaway/ — notice that no two are the same.

    I am a queer, kinky, non-monogamous, dis­abled, per­verted, curvy, alter­na­tive, open-minded femme dyke. Often times, queer cov­ers it for me. Queer is an umbrella term, an open ended term, an encom­pass­ing term, a wel­com­ing term, an inclu­sive term.

    First, I iden­ti­fied as the default I was given; straight. Then, I iden­ti­fied as bisex­ual. Then I real­ized I was attracted almost 100% to female assigned peo­ple, so I iden­ti­fied as a les­bian. Then I real­ized that I was attracted to and loved gen­der queer peo­ple and trans­men as well…so I iden­ti­fied as pan­sex­ual for a while, but real­ized that in my mind, it was more of a term for peo­ple who are open minded bisex­u­als. I first heard the term queer with­out giv­ing it sec­ond thought, and then I real­ized that it fit me. It didn’t mat­ter who I was attracted to, and whether or not it changed. It didn’t mat­ter how many peo­ple I liked at one time, or how kinky I was… I was queer, and didn’t have to keep re-defining me. I just…WAS.

    And that’s my take on it. Again, it never hurts to ask.

  12. HellsBells
    Posted March 20, 2009 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    As some­one who used to iden­tify as bisex­ual and now as queer, I felt the term expressed more fully my attrac­tion to peo­ple across the spec­trum includ­ing trans/genderqueer peo­ple; but also that it avoided a sort of ‘half-half’ men­tal­ity that bisex­ual implies. It’s eas­ier for me to always be queer than it is to be mostly-gay-but-a-bit-straight one year then mostly-straight-but-a-bit-gay the next. Also I feel that queer is a muddy enough term to encap­su­late the kink/BDSM parts of my sexuality.

    So I guess it’s totally fair that peo­ple ask me what the hell I mean when I say I’m queer. I’m not sure myself, which is kind of the point.

  13. Posted March 25, 2009 at 10:51 pm | Permalink

    I don’t pre­tend to under­stand a lot of those labels either. Though read­ing this post and the com­ments helped a lit­tle bit. I’ve also, very unin­ten­tion­ally, offended peo­ple by ask­ing when I didn’t under­stand only to have them angered by it and shak­ing their fists. You would think some­one would be more eager to explain and pro­mote fur­ther under­stand­ing. *shrug*

    I iden­tify myself as bisex­ual. The thing that con­fuses me is, well I would pre­fer not to say actu­ally. I wouldn’t want to need­lessly and unin­ten­tion­ally offend a reader of yours honestly.

    This post was won­der­ful. I’m glad you decided to post.

  14. Posted April 5, 2009 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    God! I am so with you here! It seems like the peo­ple who use these terms expect every­one to know what they mean but won’t let any­one know!

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